May 16, 2025

Flies in the Ointment

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Tonight, Jack and Brad talk about flies. It's that time of year, and we all have had our horror story experiences! We also talk about flaps and paynis! Can't leave that part out!

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Dr. Brundle (00:13.56)
Damn. Flies in the Vaseline, sometimes blows my mind. Keep getting stuck here all the time. God, man. Is it me, search for things that you can't Damn, man. no, it's the Vaseline song by Shirley Temple's Pussy. Now known as Stone Temple Pilots.

Jack Starry (00:17.138)
Something blows my mind. Keep getting stuck here all the time. Is it you? Is it me? Search for things that we can't see.

Jack Starry (00:36.572)
Wow.

Dr. Brundle (00:40.972)
You did know that story, right? That was their first name. They had to change it in order to go mainstream. STP, were known as Shirley Temple's pussy and then they had to change it to Stone Temple Pilots in order to go mainstream. It was looking awesome. So anyway, welcome once again to Tales from the Crawl Space Podcast. I of course am your amicable and affable host, Brad Harvey.

Jack Starry (00:45.642)
I did not know it was Shirley Devils' Pussy.

Jack Starry (00:56.078)
shit, that's fucking awesome.

Dr. Brundle (01:08.152)
Dark Overlord of PCHD, Pest Patrol, Huber Depot, my favorite group. And with me as always is the beautiful and go-teed, Jack Staray. Jack, how you doing, brother?

Jack Starry (01:16.84)
Hey there. Hey there, hi there, ho there. How y'all doing? Good to be here. Excited for the show, excited for this podcast-filled weekend we're gonna have, so it's gonna be great. Looking forward to it.

Dr. Brundle (01:26.944)
my gosh, yes. The next two weeks is a veritable juggernaut of podcastage for Jack and myself. know, tonight we're doing this. And then tomorrow we're gonna be the esteemed guests on our sister podcast, Pestrogen, with the beautiful Candace and the beautiful Ginny. So yeah, I'm totally looking forward to that.

Jack Starry (01:53.196)
yeah, mom.

Dr. Brundle (01:54.37)
Bustin' boys, welcome to the show, buddy. Hello from Wisconsin, land of cheese. And you know, cheese, cheese bags. I hope you're a cheese bag man, because that would be perfect for my guy from Wisconsin. Yeah, so, but yeah, and then the following week on Friday at 2 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time U.S., Jack and I are gonna be the esteemed guests on Beauties and Beasties. It's a podcast that comes out of the UK.

Jack Starry (01:56.702)
from Wisconsin. Don't you know it's fabulous.

Jack Starry (02:03.966)
Don't you know?

Dr. Brundle (02:20.75)
and Lex and Sean are the hosts and we're really looking forward to talking to them. I've seen many of their episodes and they're great. mean, they lay it down and so it's great. So I'm looking really forward. Are they ready for us? I think they're ready for us. And for fuck's sake, I hope they are. For fuck's sake. So yeah, I'm looking forward to talking

Jack Starry (02:30.989)
yeah.

You think they're ready for us?

Jack Starry (02:39.202)
yeah, okay.

For folks sake! That's right, for folks sake!

Dr. Brundle (02:49.794)
to those two guys next week and tomorrow I'm looking forward to talking to those two gals. It's gonna be a very busy juggernaut of podcastage.

Jack Starry (02:56.06)
Nice, very nice.

Jack Starry (03:02.334)
That was your past week, my friend.

Dr. Brundle (03:05.517)
I have returned to the field, Jack, after a long five month hiatus from being, I don't know, not in the field. I'm in the field. I'm in a different capacity now. Right now, I am the very first salesman for my beloved Trio Pest Control. I'm out there trying to get the name out currently. Basically going out and introducing myself to places.

Jack Starry (03:27.198)
Okay.

Dr. Brundle (03:30.482)
You know passing cards out. I've probably passed out more cards in the last two days than I have in the last five years of my old pest control career. know by the time this is all said and more people are going to know about, know the existence of my beloved Trio Pest Control than ever before. Thanks Tyler, appreciate being here. It's good to be back man. And so I'm really looking forward to you know to help grow the business out there.

Jack Starry (03:38.302)
Well, damn.

Dr. Brundle (03:57.098)
and do it in a way that helps everybody out. It helps the customers and helps the techs because I've been there, done that, as far as a technician, and I made it my solemn vow not to fuck them over.

Jack Starry (04:09.192)
Good man. Good man.

Hey, there you go.

Dr. Brundle (04:14.933)
Anywho, Nippy's Bob. Good to see you rolling. Hey, thanks for the love, everybody. It is really good to be back out in the field. you know, flies, Jack. We're talking flies tonight.

Jack Starry (04:27.42)
Yes, sir, we are. I was dealing with some of them little bastards out there today. For some reason, they just love a sweaty man's. They just love a sweaty man's.

Dr. Brundle (04:34.542)
They do that. I love the sweaty man. It's the hair emoji you're out.

Jack Starry (04:39.422)
I think it is because I was building a big-ass grill today and you know Tyler want me to want to make sure that you know you should always carry a pocket full of termites for for upsells

Dr. Brundle (04:51.97)
That's good to know. I always keep a little apple slice in my pocket with him too to kind of keep him moist. Pocket terminated.

Jack Starry (04:56.808)
Pocket termite, pocket termite. But no, I was putting together a big old grill offset smoker grill and got that done today. So Phil old manly got me a big grill now.

Dr. Brundle (05:11.054)
Yeah, it's charcoal grill. He's a real man, not me. I'm a fake man because I have a gas grill, but I do have a charcoal grill. It's just in the mini barn.

Jack Starry (05:15.08)
Yeah.

Jack Starry (05:20.796)
You have a grill with propane and propane accessories.

Dr. Brundle (05:23.918)
Yeah, those butane grills. Butane is one of the bastard gases. I love it. I have a guy, we have a guy at my beloved trio that his nickname is Gribble and we just, Bill just hired somebody named Dale. Some of those always run like, damn it, Dale.

Jack Starry (05:43.198)
Are you a CIA agent?

Dr. Brundle (05:46.433)
Are you attempting to know me?

Jack Starry (05:48.702)
my god. Now, have you heard of any, has William the Merciful been dealing with any fly calls? You have any accounts that are a problematic fly account?

Dr. Brundle (05:53.326)
Thank you.

Dr. Brundle (06:01.294)
Slide calls.

Dr. Brundle (06:06.466)
Depends on the fly, depends on the speakeas of fly. And so we do quite a bit of commercial. the drain flies, the fruit flies, all that shit, always an issue, especially in your stanky, and some of your more skanky ass establishments that always consider the pest control company to be the alternative for soap. so yeah, we get some of them.

Jack Starry (06:18.822)
Right, right.

Jack Starry (06:29.278)
You

Dr. Brundle (06:33.814)
I'll tell you what though, in the last, I would say very recently, back in the old days, we had some really good fly baits out. had muscicide, fly tech, all that foul smelling shit, the little granules that kind of burnt your arm if you got it on you. But gold sticks, yeah. And what was that, that golden Maori shit that everybody was using the poison raccoons instead of for flies. I mean, yeah, those, that was,

Jack Starry (06:50.28)
Gold sticks, get the gold sticks.

Jack Starry (06:58.45)
Yep, yep.

Dr. Brundle (07:03.34)
That was the gilded age of flight control, but no more. And for the longest time, we didn't have anything that was worth a damn. And then all of a the good folks at MaxForce came out with a pretty good granular bait. And it did the job. It's one of those things you could put it in those little stations that would hang in the wall with little shelves. Back when I was an economics Labrador retriever, we were putting Flytech in those left and right in some of the QSR places. It did a decent job.

Jack Starry (07:22.184)
With the little louvers on it, yeah.

Dr. Brundle (07:31.072)
And then along comes MaxForce. So, well, with MaxForce, not only can you do that, but you can also dissolve it in water and paint it on surfaces, which was absolutely cool. And again, it did the job, but come on, let's face it, it's still a mess when you do that. And even still, you could use this, it was even labeled for limited scatter, you could do it that way. It did a pretty good job, but...

Jack Starry (07:46.652)
Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (07:58.016)
It didn't, that was for outdoor places, like windowsills, things like that. Didn't have a really wide, you know, like a wide food service label. And then all of a sudden the clouds parted and Bassif, our good buddies at Bassif, delivered Alpine.

Jack Starry (08:17.988)
I fucking love that stuff, man.

Dr. Brundle (08:19.532)
like a shaft of light coming from the heavens above, Alpine fly spot bait in particular. This stuff, I gotta tell you, Jack, I've got a can of it. To take your phrase. I got a can of it. I applied this shit on a windowsill in my kitchen because my dog is definitely afraid of flies, right? Poor Max.

Jack Starry (08:40.478)
Ha

Jack Starry (08:44.094)
for Max.

Dr. Brundle (08:45.28)
Anybody that knows him, he's the little black chihuahua pug mix and he's just the most cutest, smartest boy ever. He's got those teeth. It does make E as he is absolutely a chug and he's not in the room right now. I think he's just tired. He's getting older. He to enjoy laying here with me when I did the podcast, not so much anymore. I digress. But anyway, we rescued him.

Jack Starry (08:53.288)
So does that make him a chug? Does that make him a chug?

Jack Starry (09:04.658)
No.

Dr. Brundle (09:09.676)
We assume that he had a big, ladies from Pestrogen. We had a, it's F-W-I-E-N-D, because that can only be Jenny. So he definitely, we assume, we rescued him. Yeah, that's definitely Jenny with the teeths. We assume that he had problems with flight. was in a bad, he was maybe in a garage or.

Jack Starry (09:15.538)
Hey!

Jack Starry (09:21.301)
hahahaha

Dr. Brundle (09:37.622)
a really filthy room and flies plagued him. So he's been really afraid of him and he gets a little unhinged. So I brought some of that in and I would put it on the windowsill in the kitchen. They always gravitated towards it at night. I get up the next morning, those flies were dead. Dead, dead, dead. mean, and I've seen places, it takes maybe 20 some seconds for them to start dying, doing that break dancing thing, you know?

Jack Starry (09:40.574)
Poor guy.

Jack Starry (09:54.302)
yeah.

Jack Starry (10:03.751)
Yep, yep.

Dr. Brundle (10:05.646)
I've been impressed with it. Well, the last time I applied it on my kitchen window sill was last October, just before cheese stock, I believe. after, and I mean, like last week we were killing flies. This week we're killing flies. That stuff is still there. I mean, it's got an amazing residual. Of course, you know, I keep a fairly clean kitchen, you know, but yeah, so it's gonna stick around. But yeah, I was, okay, Jenny, we get it.

I've been really impressed with Alpine and it's done, it's even done as good a job in my house and restaurants as it's done in my house.

Jack Starry (10:45.95)
Man, that stuff, sorry, beer burp. I was out back grilling at the old house and, hey, look at that.

Dr. Brundle (11:01.336)
Brando.

Jack Starry (11:02.998)
I was at the old house and flies were, next door had some nasty trash shit going on and the flies were getting thick. And I had a can of that stuff. went out to my truck and I kind of spritzed it around the outside of the door jam, which is what I would do at like a restaurant service. back door outside from the kitchen between the dumpster and the service entrance. I'd put some of that stuff, because fucking flies will hang out, wait just out.

Dr. Brundle (11:23.646)
huh.

Jack Starry (11:31.324)
just outside the door jam, wait for you to open the door. But I'd sprayed that shit on the fucking door jam. And I tell you, those flies can break dance better than that Australian chick at the Olympics. mean, how was it?

Dr. Brundle (11:34.374)
hell yeah.

Dr. Brundle (11:42.798)
I don't know man she was pretty good.

Jack Starry (11:49.05)
It was entertainment just sitting there watching them land on it and they're good for a minute or two. Then they just kind of shake a little bit and then they drop and they do the little backspin thing. know, I was trying to find.

Dr. Brundle (11:59.478)
Uh-huh. It's like their wings are beating around. It's almost like they're levitating in circles because their wings are like, you know, they're twitching and shit and it's raising them up from the surface. So it does, it actually looks like they're floating above the surface in a death spiral.

Jack Starry (12:15.634)
I was wanting to find the song Tour de France back from the breakdance days, you know? From Kraftwerk and play that while they're going, do, do, do, do, do, do, or something like, or Beatbox from the Art of Noise or something like that. Some good old 80s. I do love that shit.

Dr. Brundle (12:19.682)
Yeah. Yeah.

Hahaha!

Dr. Brundle (12:29.894)
yeah. god. But anyway, it's so much cleaner too. With such good a product always comes a sacrifice. I would say out of every six or seven cans you get, you get that one that just doesn't want to work. It clogs the fuck up. You can't get it unclogged for shit.

Jack Starry (12:51.197)
Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (12:55.628)
But the good folks at Massif are always understanding and they will take any malfunctioning can back and credit you or give you know, swap it out for another can when you go to Ves-Vesaris or what have

Jack Starry (13:05.478)
Yeah. Nice. Well, mean, good service is good service and good shit's good shit, For sure.

Dr. Brundle (13:13.698)
You got that right. You are not wrong. So, but yeah, as far as flies, you know, right now, I mean, the flies are starting up, but it's May, you Talk to me in like August, September. Yeah, you want flies? Yeah, we got flies, but you know, nothing like a good preemptive strike. Everybody knows probably the best way to keep flies away from a fucking establishment is tell that fucking establishment to keep their fucking establishment fucking clean.

I and I'll close your legs so they don't fly home. but, but you know what? Just, yeah, I mean, but that's easier said than done. So you've got to have some shit at your arsenal. Jack, any type of residual or anything like that, what, what, what did you ever use? know, besides, besides the usual fly bait, anything that you found to be effective in the treatment and or control of said flies.

Jack Starry (13:43.348)
Close your legs, lady.

Jack Starry (14:08.584)
Well, I know what I use. I'm not sure if it was on the label at the time or not. So, but you know, that was just, that was me. But I would do dumpster area paddock services, the Penstin dumpster area and treat the area with like suspend. that, SC, SC. But we did have the,

Dr. Brundle (14:22.619)
huh.

Dr. Brundle (14:30.36)
Polyzone or SC? SC? Okay, okay, yep.

Jack Starry (14:38.194)
the alpine. that's, I started getting the, I'd flip open the dumpster lid and start getting right on the edges of that dumpster lid. But sometimes you just have to tell them, you you got to get your guys out there with a damn power washer and clean that entire dumpster paddock area. I mean, they got grease pouring all down the sides and shit. And sometimes they had the little,

Dr. Brundle (14:40.76)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Brundle (14:48.291)
Uh-huh.

Dr. Brundle (14:53.26)
Exactly.

Dr. Brundle (14:57.942)
Exactly.

Jack Starry (15:04.168)
Grease chap thing in the same dumpster paddock and that thing's just leaking all over the fucking place.

Dr. Brundle (15:07.126)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I always hated saying it because I wouldn't think about it I'd set my service bag on it and you got to check a road station or deal with slides and stuff like that. I go grab it and be like.

Jack Starry (15:16.306)
and it'd be all, ugh.

Jack Starry (15:20.901)
yeah!

Dr. Brundle (15:22.43)
And finally they're like, fuck. And then I go inside to do the service. I go in the laser room, drop the diaper station down, and set it on air.

Jack Starry (15:25.8)
Felt like you were doing pest control in a peep show.

Jack Starry (15:31.688)
AHAHAHA! That poor kid.

Dr. Brundle (15:35.212)
Yeah, right. got wipes in your bag, lady. Just wipe that stuff down.

Jack Starry (15:38.878)
It's like doing pest control in a peep show. The floor is sticky.

Dr. Brundle (15:45.498)
Yeah. Sticky floors in the peep shows. Brandon says that they're great for it's great for rodent bags when there's captures. Yeah, I can see that. Open it up. Pop it back down.

Jack Starry (15:46.259)
Hehehehehe

Yummy.

Jack Starry (15:58.766)
my chat isn't scrolling or I would be, I would have been staying on top of the comments that are coming through. I apologize, but

Dr. Brundle (16:07.118)
Yeah, mine was working. I'm just not paying any fucking attention to our guests. Hey, how is everybody doing? Brandon, Mario, and Zippy's Pop.

Jack Starry (16:20.028)
Demand CS with sugar, somebody used at one time. Huh. it did not do that.

Dr. Brundle (16:24.778)
I did not know that. My jam was always either demand or suspend Polyzone. The reason I had an affinity towards suspend Polyzone and I was also, besides the fact that I think it worked fairly well, was the fact that when I heard about, when they first brought Polyzone out and somebody was talking about it, they were discussing the fact that they tested it over in Africa or whatnot.

Jack Starry (16:34.984)
Mm-hmm.

Jack Starry (16:40.306)
Right.

Dr. Brundle (16:52.13)
and they were actually dipping mosquito nets in this, you know, polyzone shit and letting them dry, letting them and putting around and it was, was murder on them. No mosquitoes were getting through them. You know, were, the mosquitoes would land on them and it would kill them. So, you know, that's stuff that you could get away, get away with in Africa, but you know, here in, here in the good old US of A, that's kind of shit they don't let us do.

Jack Starry (17:05.136)
wow.

Jack Starry (17:09.118)
Damn.

Jack Starry (17:21.054)
Well, that's why you have to go with one of those do it yourself pest control things where they send you the little tiny bottle and you spray it yourself. That's what the world's coming to.

Dr. Brundle (17:29.704)
are you talking about? Yeah, you're talking about the one that rhymes with bestie?

Jack Starry (17:34.854)
Yes, yes, that's what I'm talking about. There's a couple of them out there now.

Dr. Brundle (17:39.736)
yeah, everybody's kind of on the, they're kind of bandwagging in on that stupid, pesty shit.

Jack Starry (17:44.796)
That's right, kill them pollinators, you dumbasses. What the fuck?

Dr. Brundle (17:47.47)
And then blame it on the professionals or the semi professionals We're professional in name only

Jack Starry (17:51.132)
That's right.

I got some good stories over the week. Speaking of a Pesty Besties, Candice Norquist submitted a story for us. She said, so here's my fly story for you. Flies are flies. Nothing usually to get grossed out over too bad. But this was a different story. One beautiful August afternoon, Brandon and I were doing monthly service at the apartment complex as we were webbing a townhouse building.

I noticed that all four windows from one unit had 20 to 30 blowflies per window. I told Brandon to come see. We went to the property manager on site and had her come back to it as well. We knocked on the door and the woman, and I use that term loosely as no woman would raise her five month old in that, said that they had their water recently turned back on and they had the flies under control so she wouldn't let us in. Well,

We had the management serve a 48 hour notice for us to enter. Upon entering, you could taste the heavy air and see the bleeding walls of filth. Used adult diapers stacked four feet high in numerous rooms. This wasn't a case of mental illness. This was pure laziness. Four adults in that house and no one could figure out why the flies were so bad. I would think that having big diapers full of turds all over the place would be a little bit of a giveaway.

I I'm not saying that they can't, but they could, I can't figure it out. Dude, you got your shitty pants on the floor. We scheduled treatment and got it taken care of. They were moved to a different unit on the property and I'm sure they're going to do it again. We always check their windows and make sure it doesn't start up again. The amount of filth, stupidity and flies were all astronomical. We actually got to go in the unit after they moved out and the brown hardwood floors were.

Dr. Brundle (19:23.694)
You know, I would think so too. See what I mean?

Jack Starry (20:03.254)
Disgusting. The fuck is wrong with people?

Dr. Brundle (20:05.568)
I am appalled, Jack.

Jack Starry (20:07.662)
just, speaking of Scotty Grill, there's a story coming up and I'm trying to call you out for next week on the podcast, Scotty. We want to get you on the show next week.

Dr. Brundle (20:20.386)
Yes, yes, you just saved us a message. Yeah, what do you say? Come on the show with us,

Jack Starry (20:27.526)
Yeah, man, we'll talk about your life in the industry, talk about your music, everything.

Dr. Brundle (20:34.624)
huh. Jack, I'm going to send you little code message here now. Yes. The Lion of Australia is a go.

Jack Starry (20:40.135)
Okay.

Dr. Brundle (20:47.992)
So just leave it at that. Yeah, yep. It just came through.

Jack Starry (20:49.702)
No, no, I gotcha. gotcha. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Dr. Brundle (20:57.134)
You know, for the rest of you, more news to follow. Jack Bikes, Jack Killsome time, I'm trying to find my story here.

Jack Starry (21:00.594)
That's right. What? money?

Jack Starry (21:06.248)
Well, while he's looking for the story, I want to make sure I tell you about this beautiful Tony Spangler Tumbler. This one is the Phantom Termiticide Insecticide. It's got a beautiful rubber bottom. It's double wall steel. I've got some cold water in this one right now, but look at that graphics. Look how clean that is. Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (21:13.89)
doing that already. Okay.

Dr. Brundle (21:24.184)
I got nothing in mine. Yeah, I'm ooh, Phantom Plus. It used to put like a plus, take a sharpie and put a plus right there. But you know, mine currently, I was kind of hoping Jack would talk a little bit so I can run and get a bottle of water to refill this because I have already drank all of my chaser. But you know what? Every bit of it was as cold as the day I put it in there because Tony Spangler tumblers are double insulated steel.

Jack Starry (21:31.39)
Hahaha!

Dr. Brundle (21:49.996)
The ice stays in there for, I mean, I've had it in there for 48 hours. can still hear this shit when I picked it up. So it's incredible. And of course he did cover that. The rubber bottom.

Jack Starry (22:01.022)
Go run for some water. I can run my mouth. That's fine. I can always run my mouth. I'm going tell you about some flies. I used to have to do pest control on Sundays for this chicken processing plant. That's all I'm going to say about it. They'd run six days out of the week and then Sunday they'd shut down for cleaning. They had a break room at the front of the building and

Dr. Brundle (22:04.495)
Run your mouth, brother.

Jack Starry (22:29.274)
It would gather, they leave the doors wide open to the outside, the doors, you know, into the break room, which is right off the outside door. They'd take the blood from the chickens and they would spread it on this field behind the building. So the amount of flies that were drawn outside of that field was ridiculous, redonkulous. And we'd have to take cans of 565 and herd the flies out of the damn break room.

out of the little cafeteria area. And the problem is that none of those assholes could put flylights up at the right level. They'd always put them too damn high. I don't know why they do that shit. Right, right. You you didn't have to get like a step stool. You you got to get on a little step stool to change the fucking glue boards in them.

Dr. Brundle (22:59.726)
You

Dr. Brundle (23:10.699)
yeah, like eight to 10 feet high. Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (23:19.545)
definitely. Rule of thumb is like four to six feet, something like that.

Jack Starry (23:25.074)
Yeah, I mean, I figured if it's just below my eye level, know, somewhere between my chin and my nipples, that'd be my chipples, between my chipples, that'd be the optimum place to put one. But they'd have it like up here and I'm like, I'm doing any fucking good.

Dr. Brundle (23:34.52)
Your Chipples.

Dr. Brundle (23:46.2)
Yep, absolutely. They're good at dead. The only good it did was that it would save them from having to replace it if somebody mashed into it. It's like, yeah, we don't want to keep buying them. So we're just going to put it up here where it don't fucking work. we're up to our audit guidelines by actually having it here. It's not going to do a fucking thing, but we're going Yeah, yeah, I get it. That's right. It's mood lighting for the employees.

Jack Starry (23:46.438)
And look at that. Look at that.

Jack Starry (23:57.009)
It's.

Jack Starry (24:09.15)
It's ambient lighting. It's all just for them. It's ambient lighting. Yes, right. But I was talking about the cafeteria at the chicken processing plant. We'd have to take like cans of 565 and herd the flies out because behind the building they'd take all the chicken blood and they'd fertilize these fields behind the building with chicken blood and the amount of fucking flies it drew was ridiculous. God.

Dr. Brundle (24:34.638)
Shit, I bet. We used to do this hippie food plant out in Cambridge City, Indiana. It's no longer there anymore. I can say it. It was called Really Cool Foods. I did it for Economics Laboratory Retriever. And they had a really bad fly problem in their, what was it?

Jack Starry (24:41.672)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Brundle (25:03.426)
the bad food section, know, where they would, you know, like expired chicken, turkey breast, things like that. They would put them, you know, they would throw it in a dumpster. Then somebody come up, pick it up and feed it to pigs or whatever, or turn it into dog food, what have you. The flies out there were horrendous. And this was an organic, you know, pure earth type, you know, blah, blah, blah. And we couldn't apply any pesticides inside this building. My...

Jack Starry (25:07.454)
okay.

Jack Starry (25:16.318)
Thank

Jack Starry (25:24.286)
Hey,

Dr. Brundle (25:30.38)
My district manager who was not known for his flashes of brilliant ideas actually had a flash of a brilliant fucking idea. And so we got two five gallon buckets filled in with the hottest water that we could get out of that facility and put rock salt in them. We started up, we took that rock salt and we just douched everything with it. It changed the moist areas where the flies were laying their eggs to the point where the larvae would.

Jack Starry (25:36.016)
Yeah

Jack Starry (25:45.916)
Right?

Jack Starry (25:52.382)
you

Dr. Brundle (26:00.128)
survived, they all died, the flies stopped. I mean, we'd still get some coming in from the outside, but the actual breeding areas in the little cracks and crevices and shit like that, taken care of. Yeah, just totally changed it. And I saw that again for fruit flies in a bar where they have the underneath the bar, they've got the drains, all the drains, know, all roads lead to Rome when you're, you know, when you're a bar drain system and you get that one little pit right there, they filled it with rock salt.

Jack Starry (26:01.17)
Damn.

Jack Starry (26:12.328)
Yeah.

Jack Starry (26:26.386)
Right.

Dr. Brundle (26:30.902)
and let it drain. This fucking place never had a fruit fly problem ever. yeah, I've seen bars throw rock salt in urinals. It's like, guess their customer's piss wasn't salty enough. And they were all so fucking diabetic, all the sugar and shit in their piss was dropping flies. it's like, but.

Jack Starry (26:35.432)
No shit.

Jack Starry (26:41.886)
Hmm

Jack Starry (26:52.06)
I wish they would have done that. We had these big urinal troughs at military school. Like five guys could stand in front of this damn trough and piss. I wish they would have thrown at that. But it's like...

Dr. Brundle (26:59.842)
Now, they up against the or were they in the middle of the floor so you had to like face each other while you were pissing?

Jack Starry (27:06.75)
up against the wall thankfully. But you ever seen those military training videos where like that one gun fight where the tracers follow the plane as it's flying, they're trying to shoot it? That's what you're doing with those little flies is like, ah, trying to get them.

Dr. Brundle (27:17.174)
Yeah.

Jack Starry (27:22.046)
You don't want to, you know, you accidentally piss on, you know, the guy standing next to you and shit like that.

Dr. Brundle (27:27.992)
But he can't be mad because he's doing the same thing in the other direction.

Jack Starry (27:31.007)
That's right. You don't cross the streams. Remember what they say on Ghostbusters, you don't cross the streams.

Dr. Brundle (27:36.078)
Don't cross streams, no. Hey, did you do the Tumblr add to its completion?

Jack Starry (27:42.814)
I did not, I was waiting for you or I was gonna throw it in there somewheres.

Dr. Brundle (27:46.999)
Did you discuss about the accessories that come with with the Tony Spangler?

Jack Starry (27:49.54)
I was waiting for you. That's your wheelhouse.

Dr. Brundle (27:53.23)
That is my wheelhouse. of course, everybody who's been on the, who's seen the podcast knows I could only be talking about the one and only straight from Tony stainless steel, urethral sounding rod. I mean, look at this. Now I've opted for the straight one today because not only do I not have a curvature to worry about, but I'm also, I was also in a hurry to get on the show. I'm not going to mention why I was in such a hurry. I will just say gall and bladder. but, but I'm telling you what you could not get.

Jack Starry (28:05.256)
That's right.

Dr. Brundle (28:22.88)
a more cleaner pathway from bladder to toilet than you can with the urethral sounding rod that comes with every Tony Spangler tumbler. So you've got it all, the tritus and you know, inhaling or exhaling, exhaling is preferred to clear it out. But I'm telling you what, with the graphics, the rubber bottom, the double walled insulation,

Jack Starry (28:32.606)
Clear out the detritus.

Dr. Brundle (28:52.546)
The clear, the clean urethra, there's only one place to go.

Dr. Brundle (29:04.622)
Okay, that was probably the longest Tony Spangler Tumblr ad we ever had.

Jack Starry (29:13.982)
Well, boys and girls, that awesome jingle comes from my boy JT Story. If you go to Facebook, he has a page, JT Story VO for voiceover. He'll do jingles, podcast intros as you hear, as you heard at the beginning of this show and all of our other shows, he does custom intros. He's done them for Pesterjim podcasts and for other podcasts out there. And if you go on Instagram and check out Six Foot Stump, that is his

original music that he's been posting on Six Foot Stump on Instagram.

Dr. Brundle (29:44.911)
Yep. Very interesting. A great song and he also does, he's got a couple of great covers that I've heard as well. I don't know if they're public. He may just do them for his own entertainment, but they are really bloody awesome.

Jack Starry (30:01.736)
From Frank Sinatra to Allison Change, he does some wonderful covers. Yep.

Dr. Brundle (30:04.94)
Yeah, the Coldplay, everything, yeah. I'll stay away. Allison Chains his cover. Fuck, man.

Jack Starry (30:10.674)
That was my birthday gift from him and I love it.

Dr. Brundle (30:13.728)
I love it, I would love to hear it again. It's so buried in my shit, I don't know if I got it. But anyway, I digress. Let's talk about some more stories that we've got. Brandon came through with a few. I hit him up, I said, you got a juicy fly story for tomorrow's show, because we're not desperate here or anything. He goes, man, not really. He goes, I recently did a house that was flipped.

Jack Starry (30:34.366)
Ha

Dr. Brundle (30:39.34)
And I think they left a dead animal in the attic somewhere, probably raccoons, because there were hundreds of flies in the fresh new flip. And then there were maybe about 50 to 100 of them on the outside deck that went up to the second floor attic. The attic was inaccessible. I was just called out for flies so they could sell the house. There was another one in West Baltimore, or a little more west than that, where this lady had a pest control company that I'd worked for for about a year, coming out every month, and her drain flies were terrible.

hundreds of them all throughout her spotless house. I was there for my spiteful. With this being that bad, I knew there was a plumbing issue. It was a bi-level house where the left half of the house had a crawl space, the right half of the house had a basement, if that makes sense. Yes, it does. I'm in Indiana. Construction, anything's possible. I started crawling the crawl space sure I would find something. Not only did I find tons of holes chewed through the dirty old lazy plastic barrier on the ground,

Jack Starry (31:22.45)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Brundle (31:34.102)
and tremendous mouse evidence in the installation, discovered a sewage leak with tons of flies. It's not always dead stuff, folks. I found it interesting that when I started getting into the crawl space, she looked at me and said, the other guy never went in there. That shocked me a damn bit. So, I mean.

Jack Starry (31:39.002)
Yummy!

Jack Starry (31:51.506)
Well, it may not always be dead stuff, but I've had people tell me it smells like something died in me, so there's that.

Dr. Brundle (31:56.75)
Oh hell yeah. I was, I may smell like egg farts in here. It's like, nah, that's cause your, your lateral's broke. And you know, I'd go down in the crawl space. It's like, I just look in and I wouldn't go any further because the pipes busted. There's like shit and toilet paper hanging off the end of the pipe. I was like, I ain't going in there, but I'm trying to keep from puking. Just, just looking at it, you know, but, and uh,

Jack Starry (32:01.382)
You

Jack Starry (32:12.2)
Again, I'm not doing that biohazard shit.

Andy Dufresne crawled through 200 yards of the nastiest...

Dr. Brundle (32:21.752)
Dude, six-pence yards, a nastiest... freedom. my God. That's kind of how I felt when I went back to work. I felt like Andy Dufresne's is crawling through there. He got finally busted out. I'm back! God.

Jack Starry (32:36.338)
They don't make enough soap for me to feel clean after that. They don't make enough soap.

Dr. Brundle (32:40.95)
Yeah, Andy Dufresne went through a lot more other things worse than Kroll and that man. I'd like to say the ladies left him alone after that day. That's what I'd like to say. Okay, there's another house in a town. I was there for mice. The house was a slab on grade. And I noticed the drain flies and some forage flies and some filth flies, but mostly drain flies. Not that bad, but they said they got really bad in the summer.

Jack Starry (32:46.243)
yeah, yeah.

Dr. Brundle (33:06.562)
So I said, maybe I'll find something while I do my mouse treatment since I do the house on my hands and knees. And when I'm done, I'll try to investigate for the problem. They kept their drains pretty clean and stuff. The garbage disposal was new because they thought it was that where you wipe under the flap. Yes, piece of that. Always wipe under your flaps. Yeah. There was little to no...

Jack Starry (33:23.176)
always wipe under the flap. Yes. You hear that? You hear that ladies? You hear that ladies?

Dr. Brundle (33:32.162)
But I did tell them about the enzyme products to put in the drain and everyone should do it anyway. Invade biofoam in the can, near the conservatory with the candlestick. No, this stuff, I mean, you put the tube in there, you fill up a garbage disposal all the way up, you walk away, say, give it a few hours and rinse it out, you're fine. I've got a little bit more garbage disposal advice later. And with the advice I gave them over time, which they followed in the tea.

They never had any kind of relief, especially on hot days. So a year later when they called me out from ice or maybe a year after that, I'm in the kitchen. And this whole event reminds me that it was a situation and I smelled drafts of decay and rot, but I'm not finding any signs of excessive moisture trying to follow my nose. This is another client whose realtor did not recommend a home inspector. I told them that the best bet was to get a plumber to put the camera in the sewage lines because that would eliminate the possibility of any collapsed line. If you're seeing hundreds in the summertime,

This is my first assumption that they would want to knock out by process of elimination. Granted, it's like a 250 to $375 service by plumbing companies, which sucks. If they find something, which is a much bigger problem than flies. If they don't, sorry. I told him I had a home inspector who would camera the line. He's the best home inspector I ever met. I helped train him in WDIS stuff. He's real diligent. I called my home inspector buddy.

and said he would help him out, give a quick shot over their roof and stuff, and the camera line for 275, which I felt really generous. Getting on roofs, using this expertise and performing plumbing service. He found multiple roof leaks and the sewage line was collapsed. 60, $60,000 later, if they ever buy a house again, I know, God, I know, they're gonna reach out to me and ask me who my favorite realtors are, and if they're using Dan as their home inspector.

Jack Starry (35:07.262)
Ew.

shit.

Dr. Brundle (35:20.142)
I know most home inspectors set, like our industry, there are good, honest guys and girls out there. Brandon, thank you very much for your story. That is very true. Yeah, that's the thing about sometimes when you run into fly situations, it could mean that this might be like a rotten potato into the sink or it could mean they need $60,000 worth of work. It's a crash.

Jack Starry (35:43.07)
Right, right. You had mentioned invade bio foam. I know there's some companies that either have to tighten up the purse strings or the guy ordering is an idiot and they don't get to have stuff like that to take care of a problem. You can either suggest to the homeowner, liquid plumbers foaming pipe snake. It is an enzyme foam. It's a dense enzyme foam. That stuff works out really well, actually. What are you giggling about?

Dr. Brundle (36:04.942)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Brundle (36:12.581)
Okay, I'm just talking about thinking about you as I was about waiting for you to say something about you know if they buy one to see your foaming pipe snake, but I I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cry I didn't mean to harsher mellow there

Jack Starry (36:22.194)
Well, I was getting around to my painless. I was getting there. I was going to do it.

Now you can rotor, and I, I, look, I've, I have rotor-routered some turn cutters with my painless. So there's that, you know, but for, but for real, but for real, the liquid plumber foaming pipe snake does work in a pinch.

Dr. Brundle (36:37.062)
Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah 36 39 Candace

Dr. Brundle (36:47.31)
And I've got something that works even, that's even cheaper in a pinch. Take your garbage disposal, grab a handful of ice cubes, take your garbage disposal, fill it up with said ice cubes and turn it on. It's gonna sound like your whole house is falling apart, right? But it's not. What that's doing is it's grinding that ice up and it's scrubbing the shit out of the walls and those flats and everything else on your garbage disposal as it's grinding that ice up. It's like embracing, it just tears everything up.

Follow it up with a little bit of hot water, you're golden. That's gonna clean the shit out of everything.

Jack Starry (37:20.028)
I tell you, I've put ice on some flaps before and it really makes the nipple stand out.

Dr. Brundle (37:25.89)
I bet it does. bet it does. But it also, I don't know about getting rid of any of that nasty buildup, but.

Jack Starry (37:27.656)
Some ice on them flaps.

Well, you know, if there's nasty buildup, I'm probably not going to play with the flaps in the first place. So there's that.

Dr. Brundle (37:38.488)
Yeah. Well, I want to say goodbye to everybody that was on the live stream chat that decided to get the hell out of here after Jack started talking about flaps. It's been nice having you on the show. We'll see you next week.

Jack Starry (37:44.179)
HA

Jack Starry (37:50.928)
I got one. What are you doing?

Dr. Brundle (37:55.042)
Man, I'll tell you what, I'm in.

Dr. Brundle (38:01.154)
You're going Mr. Roboto on us again.

Jack Starry (38:01.5)
You'll. shit, what the fuck? Better yet. OK, Scotty Grill, our good friend, Scotty Grill, also known as Zippy's Pop on the chat here, sent in a story and I'm sorry I gave you a a little emoji comment on the story. I should have responded to you, but it's been a pretty busy second half of the week. So he goes.

Dr. Brundle (38:06.922)
you're good now better better now

Jack Starry (38:30.62)
So back when I was a kid and learning the dark arts of pest control, my old man asked a friend of his to help out with our fledgling company's termite jobs while teaching me the craft at the same time. This guy's name was Joe. Joe was a good old country boy and had a different way of looking at things sometimes. This is actually his story, but I thought it was worth repeating. So Joe came to town one day to help with the job.

We'd become buddies at that point and would talk about other things besides hammer drills and termites. We was all excited about a new car that he had, a Cadillac. He proudly showed me a Polaroid snapshot of him standing beside it. Me, 19 years old, my 19 year old self was pretty impressed with it. I didn't know anyone that had a Cadillac. Then he told me how he got it.

He received a call one day from the local police. Turns out that some guy drove his Cadillac off into the woods and then killed himself. By that time, what was left of his body was found. The car had filled with flies and maggots and all that other fun stuff that goes along with that. So Joe gets hired to handle this part of the nastiness. Well, I guess he saw an opportunity and somehow managed to purchase the car from the family of the guy that offed himself. Now, I don't care how clean that car got.

I don't care if it sand blasted and dipped in holy water, there's no friggin' way I would ever get in it. But not Joe! He was proud. He was a Cadillac man.

Dr. Brundle (39:57.634)
Yeah.

That's right, he was the wolf. please, pretty please, get the fucking brains out of the car. Winston Wolf, I solve problems.

Jack Starry (40:14.59)
shit. Yeah, that just sounds... I can only imagine in the middle of the summer, that car heats up and whatever little schmaltz that was left somewhere in the frame of the chair just warming up a little bit so it smells like...

Dr. Brundle (40:16.59)
Hey, we both just took a refreshing drink there, didn't we?

Dr. Brundle (40:33.068)
Yes, yeah. Warm it up, yeah, kind of like, hmm, man, somebody's roasting something.

Jack Starry (40:40.03)
It's like it smells like someone shit-vomited dog food

Dr. Brundle (40:46.712)
Like a good fellow Ray Liotta's got the garden hose spraying out his trunk. Go home and get your fucking shine box. We have an audio story tonight, Jack. And it's from my beloved cheese daughter, Jenny Wilson, Host of Pestrogen. So I'm just gonna line everything up here and just let her rip.

Jack Starry (40:51.422)
hahahaha

Jack Starry (40:56.428)
my god.

Mmm!

Jack Starry (41:05.873)
Alright.

Dr. Brundle (41:14.028)
running behind today so I will not have time to write out a response so thank you Jack and Brad for letting me submit a voice clip here. story first flies for me. When I was new to the industry, I went on a fly call. I was the third person out. It was a call back and it was flies all throughout the house. I mean tons in the kitchen. So

point was I needed to figure out where they were breathing from, right? It's floods. I did an inspection of the house. The gentleman was a doctor and he wasn't home very often. It was very nice condo. He was never there. So I ended up doing an inspection all through the house and then I get to the garage and I'm looking around. There's a trash receptacle in the garage and

I asked him about it, I was like, hey, why don't we keep this outside? They had an HOA that required them to keep it in the garage. So I pull out the bags and there was a ton of gunk at the bottom of the trash cans and out comes a bunch of flies, which was kind of crazy because there really wasn't that many flies in the garage itself, like dead around or flying around or anything. But they were all throughout the house. we took out the trash receptacle.

I helped him spray it out and everything. And he was a little skeptical that that was the cause. But then about a week later, he gives me a call and says, hey, Jen, I'm just tickled silly. That really was it. Thank you so much for doing a thorough job. So today, I listened to the Beauty and Beasties episode. And they talked about the two qualities of what a pest controller should have. And one was an inquisitive mind.

discipline and I totally I think that really is what sparked off my love for this profession and that was one of the first moments with that fly where I was not going to give up I was going to find the source and I love having an inquisitive mind and trying to figure it out so yeah thanks guys

Jack Starry (43:40.103)
Hang up the phone!

Dr. Brundle (43:40.526)
He's like, hey, turn off your phone, Well, thank you very much, Jenny, for that. Jack and I love you. We always enjoy your contributions to our show, and we're looking forward to just totally destroying yours tomorrow.

Jack Starry (43:51.779)
yeah.

Jack Starry (43:56.606)
It's gonna be nice, you know, just kind of sit back and go in with the flow and let them run the show and we just kind of.

Dr. Brundle (44:00.704)
It is, Yeah, I felt, you know, they've had several episodes under their subspecies, so to speak. I'm looking forward to catching up with the ladies.

Jack Starry (44:13.286)
yeah, no, it's gonna be great. On their terms, on their turf. So it'll be great.

Dr. Brundle (44:18.412)
Yes, that's right on their turds.

Jack Starry (44:20.926)
Hey, y'all, you got an answer to them for doing something with the turds now, you know.

Dr. Brundle (44:26.702)
You know what? Yeah, I fear this. know, because, you know, they run a tight ship over there. I mean, all their episodes that I've listened to, really, really professional quality. You know, when they edit, they even have fades. Oh my gosh, Edwin. Welcome. Welcome, welcome to the show. I don't think this is first time I've ever seen him here. Oh, and there's the tater too.

Jack Starry (44:39.196)
Oops.

Jack Starry (44:47.494)
Yeah.

It was Valerio, good to see you buddy.

Jack Starry (44:56.64)
hell, look at that!

Dr. Brundle (44:58.274)
Man, we got all kinds of different people on this week. What the fuck?

Jack, think we've arrived.

Jack Starry (45:05.702)
Maybe, maybe it's the butt.

Dr. Brundle (45:07.758)
Either that or we've created the illusion of arriving.

Jack Starry (45:10.416)
It's the bus stop in Gary, Indiana, but we've arrived.

Dr. Brundle (45:13.944)
That's right, exactly. The Greyhound Station, stall four, men's room.

Jack Starry (45:18.654)
I have sat at that Greyhound station waiting for a bus, the one in Gary, was only time I've ever really been in fear for my life. That's a rough town, man.

Dr. Brundle (45:24.184)
Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (45:32.686)
Well, if you were waiting for the bus and Gary, you don't have to worry because Jesus just left Chicago. But he's bound for New Orleans.

Jack Starry (45:37.95)
Well, because that the big the big orange trucks, the big orange 18 wheelers, that's what I was driving. And I had a back spasm from having to unload an entire 53 foot trailer of cases of toilet papers that were stacked on the floor, not on pallets. And that company doesn't pay for lumpers. So I had to do it myself. And my back was like, fuck you. But halfway through the truck and my back gave out. So because I tell you.

Dr. Brundle (45:46.171)
huh. Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (46:00.853)
crap.

Dr. Brundle (46:06.665)
man.

Jack Starry (46:07.536)
You'd figure a case of toilet paper is not that heavy. Try picking up a floor to ceiling, 53 foot trailer full of case of toilet paper. That shit gets heavy after a while. So they put me on the damn truck, on the damn bus from Gary, Indiana, back to where I was living in Northwest Illinois in Sterling Rock Falls area. So.

Dr. Brundle (46:10.467)
Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (46:16.226)
Yep. Hell yeah.

Dr. Brundle (46:28.558)
Uh-huh.

Jack Starry (46:30.386)
Shady town, Shady town.

Dr. Brundle (46:31.95)
No shit. No shit. I gotta say, as far as what Jenny did, she gave Beauties and Beastly's a shameless plug there, didn't At the end. I think so too. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to talking with Alex and Sean. I mean, I'm really, really looking forward to it. So, but.

Jack Starry (46:42.12)
Peace, please.

But it's well founded. It is well founded.

Jack Starry (46:59.004)
Which one's the beauty and which one's the beastie, you think?

Dr. Brundle (47:01.87)
That's something we're gonna have to ask them when we get on the show, because I have no idea. So, you know, I feel like we've been asked on more shows outside the continental United States than we have yet. Actually, it's tied, because, well, no, we've been on three. Oh, wait a minute. No, we've been on two. We've been, shit that goes on on our heads. yeah, the two dudes are stealing podcasts that we never heard from again.

Jack Starry (47:13.776)
Well, I don't know.

Jack Starry (47:24.06)
The steal your podcast one.

Jack Starry (47:29.853)
Right.

Dr. Brundle (47:30.702)
Actually, we never heard from either of them again. But what are you going to do? We are a jagged pill to swine.

Jack Starry (47:35.548)
We ain't for everybody.

That's right, sometimes they choke on my penis.

Dr. Brundle (47:43.116)
That's right. Yeah, sometimes they just choke on us.

Jack Starry (47:45.726)
That's just... well, that's alright. I love the way we are so fuck them. I don't care.

Dr. Brundle (47:50.222)
I too. I love us, Jack.

Jack Starry (47:55.612)
I love that, it's just so beautiful.

Dr. Brundle (47:56.782)
I love us. That's not the Hallmark movie-est fucking thing I'll ever tell you.

Jack Starry (48:04.35)
I was thinking about flies and drains and stuff. I had this one lady that wouldn't go down to the basement by herself. Had a finished basement, pretty finished basement, really nice clean house. But she started seeing a lot of flies upstairs, up in the main floor of the house. Well, the fact that after her husband passed away, she would not go in the basement. She wasn't running water through the drains in the sink or the toilet.

Dr. Brundle (48:18.146)
Yeah.

Dr. Brundle (48:24.675)
Yeah.

Jack Starry (48:34.242)
anything and it is just the P traps had evaporated and you get these little bastards coming up through the and the basement was full of them and they were coming up to like the vents because she had like the ceiling vents in the basement but the floor vent on the first floor so they shared they were coming up through the vents and everything little bastards

Dr. Brundle (48:39.553)
huh.

Dr. Brundle (48:52.632)
huh, yeah.

Dr. Brundle (48:56.734)
wow. yeah. I had one lady last year. She had flies in her basement and she was just flipping out. She hates flies. So I get down there and she's got all kinds of shit in her basement. I guess her daughter had moved in, all her shit was down there, the storage, storage, But I followed the smell and I followed the life cycle of the flies back to the dead mouse. I said, you don't like flies?

You're really gonna hate this. It's like, you've got a dead mouse down here. I said, and she's just like, her eyes just turned into saucers. was like, Heidi, calm down. I see, can I use that grocery bag that's sitting on the floor? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I said, go upstairs, close the door. Once I get everything under control, I'll knock on the door and ask for your money. And she goes up and she does that. I get down there, I take care of everything. I'm standing there, I've got.

Jack Starry (49:48.679)
Right.

Dr. Brundle (49:55.138)
I've got the mouse in a bag, I've got 565 blasting, knocking down flies as many as I got. I stayed down there until, and I don't normally do this, right? But this is a special case. I stayed down there until every single fly that I saw that was flying around was dead and picked up and in that bag, right? Because I was charging this woman a premium, right? And as I pick it up off the floor.

Jack Starry (49:57.566)
Mm.

Jack Starry (50:14.942)
You were like running them down. You were running them down.

Dr. Brundle (50:25.397)
I said Heidi we're done. She goes how much that I said $600. She goes let me get my credit card. It's like, you know, I was there for an hour, you know and I Don't feel like I took advantage of the woman because she was willing to pay it You know if if she had balked and I tried to rationalize it then I'd feel bad I don't feel bad. It took a lot of it took it done, you know an hour to for one dead mouse and a bunch of flies It's like come on

Jack Starry (50:34.931)
Damn.

Jack Starry (50:50.152)
Well, speaking of mice, it's like those customers that expect you to sit, you know, on guard all day at their house and wait until the mouse shows up.

Dr. Brundle (50:59.886)
For $49. Yeah, now I have it.

Jack Starry (51:01.456)
yeah, not happening. no. We'll do forty nine dollars an hour and I'll sit around for eight hours waiting for a mouse if you want me to. But you're going to pay.

Dr. Brundle (51:12.91)
$49, you're a cheap date, Jack. $49 an hour, fuck no. I'm a buck and a half an hour on shit like that, That's our vigil charge.

Jack Starry (51:16.24)
Well, I'm a cheap date.

I'm a cheap date and I put out, so.

Jack Starry (51:27.186)
Just sitting around, know, twiddling your thumbs and everything.

Dr. Brundle (51:29.998)
yeah, hell yeah. So Jack, what are we looking at next week?

Jack Starry (51:34.288)
Mm-hmm. Mr. Scotty Grill.

Dr. Brundle (51:38.413)
we are, D-E-E-E-E-

Jack Starry (51:39.998)
He did. But God damn it, you weren't listening to me. No, he said he was in on the on the chat here said he was in.

Dr. Brundle (51:42.21)
Well, I've been fucking working, Jack. Okay, Mr. Retired. All right, awesome, awesome, outstanding. Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to that one for sure. Yeah, yeah, so we're gonna have that dude right there. We're gonna have, and then before that, we're gonna be on Beauties and Beasties, and tomorrow, we're gonna be on the lovely and vivacious Ginny and Candice, their Pestrogen podcast. We're gonna be on their podcast. We are not going to be on them.

Jack Starry (51:54.396)
Yeah, it's gonna be a one.

Jack Starry (52:12.466)
Have you noticed that other Pest Control podcasts haven't approached us to be on? It's probably because we scared the shit out of them. They have a nice professional fact-based show and we're talking about penises and flaps.

Dr. Brundle (52:21.304)
Good. They should live in fear of us.

Dr. Brundle (52:28.44)
And that's fine. And Jack, that's fine because we're not here to educate. We are not here to enlighten. We are here to entertain. We're here to talk about the dark underbelly of pest control that none of these guys have the balls to fucking talk about because they want to talk about growing their company and they want to talk about being this good influence. They want to talk about this. They want to talk about that. And that's fine.

Jack Starry (52:35.282)
NO!

Jack Starry (52:43.87)
That's right.

Jack Starry (52:47.806)
It's fair.

Dr. Brundle (52:57.772)
We'll talk about, we're gonna be the ones talking about the dildos under the beds. We're gonna be talking about the turds that we find in alleys. We're gonna be talking about the homeless people that are masturbating, you know, in the, behind the houses that we find. That's what we are here for. And if they don't wanna cover the random first lane of the crossback, I'm sorry, I left that there on the last stop, but I digress. These are the, this is what we're here for because these fuckers won't cover this shit, okay? And that's fine.

Jack Starry (53:03.655)
That's right.

Jack Starry (53:13.458)
The random flesh light in the crawl space.

Dr. Brundle (53:27.062)
And, Pestrogen, I am not talking to you. No, God no. But yeah, that's fine. If they don't want to invite us on to talk about that stuff, fine. We got no problem with that. I don't care.

Jack Starry (53:29.692)
god no, not at all.

Jack Starry (53:39.772)
Nah, I just think it's funny. That's all.

Dr. Brundle (53:42.402)
Hopefully they invite us now because it's I don't want them to because that's the way my life goes. Anything that I don't want to happen happens and anything that I want to happen doesn't happen so.

Jack Starry (53:51.592)
We have thrown down the glove.

Dr. Brundle (53:53.772)
We have, the gauntlet has been thrown. but anyway, in spite of my utter contempt for them not wanting us on because of the way we are, I am still going to plug them. Let's talk for a minute about some of those podcasts. Jack, we've got Pestrogen.

Jack Starry (53:56.19)
The gauntlet! The gauntlet has been thrown! Muffin!

Jack Starry (54:12.164)
let's see. We do have Pestrogen. Yeah, we got Pest Perspectives with Sean Muller.

Dr. Brundle (54:17.218)
Best perspective. But he's had us on though.

Jack Starry (54:21.342)
We're supposed to be working that out, we? We did go on, but yeah, we did go on with Sean. I'm getting more confused now. God damn it.

Dr. Brundle (54:26.37)
We did. yeah. That's like the doors in the Ed Sullivan show. It's like, like Jim Morrison was like, yeah, they wouldn't supposed to say, girl, we're going to get much higher than he did. And it's all we've got piss. goes, you'll never be, you'll never be on the Ed Sullivan show. goes, dude, we were just on the end. Yes, we are the butt plug of the industry. And you know what? We like it. Sniff us, sniff us.

Jack Starry (54:44.19)
I'll tell you what

Jack Starry (54:53.662)
I'm a fan of the back door, you know, it works for me.

Dr. Brundle (54:58.434)
Now, another good door song, Back Door Man.

You notice how almost everything in life kind of always circles back to the door?

Jack Starry (55:04.081)
Mmm.

Jack Starry (55:09.724)
Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Brundle (55:10.766)
They should have called themselves the revolving doors.

Jack Starry (55:14.814)
Yeah, think you got Pestrogen, Pest Perspectives, Beauties and Beasties. I've got the...

Dr. Brundle (55:26.606)
There's one with Pesposi or something. Pesposi.

Jack Starry (55:30.842)
Another podcast that I'm a fan of and I've mentioned before on the show last season was Chick-E-Delta Pie. It's a great show for the millennial generation. I really enjoy it. Kaya and her co-host, which forgive me, I'm blanking on his name right now, but they're both, it's a great show. So I really enjoy that one. So Chick-E-Delta Pie. If you go to our website, tftc.wtf and go to podcasts that are worth your time.

You'll find a link to their show. You'll also find a beers of war that are cheap fellow cheese bag. Brandon runs. That's a good show as well. So.

Dr. Brundle (56:05.366)
Absolutely. Yeah. It's damn good show, especially if you're a gamer. It's a great, it's a great show for gamers. and also, know, seasons upon us, things are getting hectic. the schedules are getting long. you know, tensions are running high. mental health is a concern. so I definitely want, know, if, if, if it's something you, you, you want to look into some, some, good stuff about mental, you know, how to cope with mental health and keep yourself together. Shit that goes on in our heads.

Jack Starry (56:22.865)
It is.

Dr. Brundle (56:35.086)
is absolutely the podcast for you. G-Rex and Dirty Skills are the hosts. We've been on there once. Once. But you know what? Those ladies there will always have a soft spot in my heart because they address an issue which is maintaining your mental health no matter what. So it's a really soothing, actually just listening to them talk, listening to their guests.

Jack Starry (56:54.515)
Right.

Dr. Brundle (57:02.638)
It's it's it is it is it is it is is an Oreo cookie for yours for your heart So definitely you know check them out shit that goes on in our heads g-rex dirty skittles. It's been a while. We still love you

Jack Starry (57:14.808)
yeah.

Most definitely, most definitely. Good shit. Good shit, man.

Dr. Brundle (57:19.074)
Yeah.

And yeah, I love podcasts. The more episodes of this podcast I do, the more I love all of them. it really opens up an avenue for people, especially, you don't have a timeframe. It's like, oh shit, it's 11 o'clock, I gotta turn on Brad and Jack and blah, blah, blah. I mean, if you wanna chat with us on Friday nights, yeah, sure, you gotta do that. But if you just wanna listen to us on the way, if you've got a long.

a long drive to your next stop, we're there for you. All of us in podcast are there for you. so I think that's great because you can just pop in whatever you want to listen to and you're there. What a time to be alive.

Jack Starry (58:05.18)
Now Brad, question for you Brad, the fact that we're gonna be on our show and two other podcasts within a week's time, would you say that's an industry event?

Dr. Brundle (58:14.989)
Dr. Brundle (58:19.246)
I would say that's a major industry event. A labia major industry event.

Jack Starry (58:20.988)
a major industry event. you had to the labia in there, didn't you? Weird, this show's got flaps all over the place,

Dr. Brundle (58:27.52)
Of course. That's right. Tales from the flaps.

Jack Starry (58:34.878)
Tales from the Meat Curtains.

Dr. Brundle (58:37.518)
Yeah, so I mean, we've been dubbed tales from the trash by somebody, but you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. think the next, I think the next two weeks are a major industry event, veritable juggernaut of podcasts featuring yours truly and his truly. So yeah, I would, I would call that a major industry.

Jack Starry (58:43.218)
I couldn't.

Jack Starry (58:59.172)
Scotty misses your iPad. You're going to have to wear it for him. Yes, our.

Dr. Brundle (59:04.044)
My eye patch, arrr. You know what? I've got that Forrest Whitaker eye going now. So, you know, I don't know. I may throw the eye patch on the other one just to kind of even it out. Cause I'm pretty sure this is lazy eye. Because I had the patch on for so long. I'll compensate. Scotty, somebody remind me next week when Scotty's on. I'll put the patch on the other side.

Jack Starry (59:25.818)
Is the bubble still floating around your eye?

Dr. Brundle (59:28.418)
The bubble is still floating around my eye but it is much smaller. I went to the doctor earlier. God, it is, it's fucking, it's a major source of insanity. I'm sitting here going, I can sit here look at it. last week I took it and I shook my head real good and the bubble broke up into two little sub tiny bubbles. It looked like a double yolk egg. that 10 tiny bubbles in the way.

Jack Starry (59:31.922)
That would drive me crazy.

Jack Starry (59:37.968)
Ugh.

Jack Starry (59:48.811)
Tiny bubbles make me happy.

Dr. Brundle (59:55.008)
Okay, good old Don Ho. You and I and maybe four other people know who Don Ho was.

Jack Starry (59:56.584)
Ha ha!

Jack Starry (01:00:01.182)
Like dawn's a what? He's a hoe.

Dr. Brundle (01:00:03.756)
Yeah, was like, no, and it's not Stormy Daniels, that's Don's hoe.

Jack Starry (01:00:09.33)
Ha

Dr. Brundle (01:00:12.334)
Oh, you shit. Jack, dammit, it's been a slice of heaven, We are looking forward to the next three events. I'm sorry, major industry events. Again, tomorrow with Jenny and Candice, and then with the Beauties and Beasties guys, Lex and Sean, and then of course, ourselves the following few hours later with good old Scotty Grill. So yeah, it's gonna be great. So Jack.

Jack Starry (01:00:16.186)
Always, always, dammit.

Dr. Brundle (01:00:41.834)
Everybody that helped make this episode, thank you very much for your contributions. We love y'all and we're out of here. So on behalf of PCHD, my favorite group, ourselves and Tales from the Podcast, Tony Spangler at spanglerart.com, Pestrogen and Beauties and Beasties and all the other podcasts out there and podcast them. Jack and I cordially invite you to bug the fuck off.

Jack Starry (01:00:48.233)
yeah.

Jack Starry (01:01:08.136)
Bug off!

Dr. Brundle (01:01:11.352)
You okay now?